Conducted by
Lucille P. Robinson (Reviewer at Alternative-Read.com)
LPR: Let me begin
by saying it was through Magdalena Ball and her Muse On-Line Conference Workshop
that I became interested in book reviewing. Ms. Ball not only conducts
workshops for conferences, she runs Preschool Entertainment, The Compulsive
Reader and is the author of two non-fiction books. Her writings and reviews
have appeared in various on-line and print publications. Ms. Ball, what caused you and Ms. Carolyn
Howard-Johnson to co-author a book of poems called Cherished Pulse?
MB: It was Carolyn’s idea! Both of us had written and published a number
of love poems and Carolyn had the idea of putting together a chapbook
specifically for Valentine’s Day – one that had only love poems, but not the
kind of soft-focus cliché ridden television advertisement that often disguise them
as love poetry. These would be poems
that celebrated real love, with real poetry – not Ogdan Nash styled cute
couplets (sorry Ogdan…). It started as a
tossed out idea but once we began playing with it, and got a great artist –
Vicki Thomas—on board, it all came together easily.
LPR: I have read Cherished Pulse and enjoyed your poems.
Will you describe how you came to write poems and why you have used the forces
of nature to describe the processes of love?
MB: I’ve been writing poetry since I’ve been a
young child. It’s a very natural form of
expression for me – perhaps more natural than fiction, which I also write,
since I tend to think in metaphor and am always trying to say more than I’m
generally capable of! It helps that I
come from a somewhat artistic and musical family—we were always bursting into
song, quoting poems, and using metaphor to convey things to one another. Once when I was about ten, my uncle gave me a
set of poetry books containing Sylvia Plath’s Arial, Anne Sexton’s Live or Die,
Rimbaud’s The Drunken Boat, and Bertolt Brecht’s Manual of Piety. Now admittedly I’d never give poetry like
that to my own ten year old! But in my
case, it was a pivotal moment. I loved
that he was giving me grown up words. I
loved the poems, and held tight to the way they conveyed the gamut of human
emotions so economically. I’ve been
taking poetry fairly seriously ever since.
And I’ll use anything—the forces of nature, the cosmos, quantum physics
(like the poem “Event Horizon” in Cherished
Pulse. See my book Quark Soup for some more examples of
that), a sporting event, a current affair, etc.
The key thing for me in poetry is to convey meaning, and that often
means that you sometimes have to knock two things together that aren’t
traditionally associated with one another to make the inchoate explicit.
LPR: Your poems are
unconventional poems, meaning they do not rhyme. Do they develop from your life
experiences? What do you like most about writing poems?
MB: I’m not sure that I’d agree that non-rhyming
poems are unconventional. “Traditional”
poetry style and structure, by which I mean that the poem follows some kind of
formal rule such as rhymed couplets, the limerick form, the sonnet, or even
Haiku or the Fibonacci sequence are exceptions to modern published poetry
rather than the norm (at least since the early 20th Century when
Eliot’s The Waste Land took the poetry world by storm). Some of the greatest, most classical of
modern poets like W.B Yeats, or W.S. Auden don’t generally rhyme (though Eliot,
Yeats and Auden have all used the subtle and occasional use of rhyme in ways
that have been extraordinary – Yeat’s “The Second Coming” is one of the
greatest rhymed poems I’ve ever read. Rhyming,
the use of alliteration, internal rhyme, and rhythm are all part of the poet’s
arsenal. I tend to rhyme only
occasionally, and feel that regular rhyming patterns generally (with some very
notable exceptions like the one above) tend to interfere with the poem’s
meaning for me – it makes the poem seem whimsical and forces the reader to
listen for the rhyme rather than fall into the meaning of the poem. That said, what is perhaps unconventional is
that Carolyn and I have pitched Cherished
Pulse at a market which is flooded with rhyming and syrupy love poetry and
certainly these poems are generally not rhyming nor syrupy. You wouldn’t find one of them in a Hallmark
card to be sure. So there is a degree of
unconventionality in them. But I do believe that people are cynical of cliché,
and ready for deeper communication.
Sometimes my poems
come from life (and I’m a horrible magpie—I’ll take anything—I’ve been known to
suddenly start smiling in the midst of an argument as I imagine a good phrase
in writing), and sometimes I write to a topic or theme for a contest. For my chapbook Quark Soup, I tended to look for inspiration in the New Scientist
magazine, since I was pulling together a collection on a theme. It worked – I got at least 2 poems from each
magazine, sometimes more – but I’ll write about anything that moves me, bothers
me, and above all, leaves me feeling like I need to explore beyond the
surface. And of course, that is my
answer to the third question – I feel that poetry, like music, can go further
with meaning than our usual sentences with subject, predicate, modifier. Poetry can illuminate intense emotions; can
reveal wonder, pain, joy in ways that we haven’t found words for before. It’s a bridge that brings people together,
and opens doors.
LPR: You have
written some fiction. Describe the type of fiction you like writing and tell us
what you have published in this genre.
MB: I tend to read and write mostly the literary
fiction genre. Literary fiction is an
odd genre in that it is mostly defined by what it isn’t – it isn’t romance, not
thriller, not mystery, not science fiction, but rather tends to focus on
character development, narrative structure, and the creation of meaning rather
than on pace and plotting, although good plotting is still a critical element
of all fiction. I’ve published a lot of
short stories, but my first novel, Sleep
Before Evening will be released in the Northern Spring (about April 2007)
by BeWrite books. It’s a coming of age
story about a nineteen year old who begins to fall apart after the death of her
philosopher grandfather. The story is a
little grungy at times as the protagonist moves away from her classical
upbringing and finds, well, sex, drugs and rock and roll, but I think overall
it’s an uplifting story about the power of art.
LPR: I see you are a very busy woman. How do you
find the time to write? Do you follow a particular schedule?
MB: I am busy it’s true! I have 3 young children (I could probably
stop there and justify the word!), a day job, a novel about to come out, books
to promote, novel 2 in progress, and I like to try and do lots of non-fiction
writing like reviews, editorial, as well as poetry. Plus I’m the editor of 2 websites, so there’s
always someone or something clamouring for attention. I just try to write in bits and pieces
wherever and whenever I can. I also plan
a lot so I can jump straight in and so that the long-term work like the novel
gets some priority in the overall scheme of things. What I don’t do is wait for quiet, or ideal
conditions. I never get that!
LPR: Do you speed write a first draft and then
spend your time editing it or do you outline first?
MB: I like the idea of speedwriting a draft, but
I’m not sure I’m up to speedwriting anything!
I do a combination of both outlining and drafting – I try and get the
basics out – a rough plot and plot points (basically where things turn or go
wrong), a fairly clear sense of the key characters and the overall theme. I also try to have a rough set of chapters so
I can break up the writing into manageable bits. But after that I tend to work through the
drafting process and hold back from being too self-critical. The ‘final’ draft is a very long way from a
ready to publish novel – there’s a lot of editing after that, and often many
revisions (Sleep had about 6 full
rewrites).
LPR: What authors have
inspired your writing of Cherished Pulse?
MB: I’m inspired by many poets, and there are so
many wonderful ones. Of course I love
the greats I mentioned earlier (I’ve been a Yeats fan for a long time), but
also and pretty much just off the top of my head, Stevie Smith, Emily
Dickenson, Dorothy Porter, William Carlos Williams, Luke Davies’ Totem (an
extended love poem which shows what language can do), and many others – I could
probably go on and on – I read a lot!
More than I write.
LPR: Have you any favorite writing tips you can
share with beginning writers?
MB: Read!
It’s critical to develop your sense of what is good and what isn’t good
writing. Also don’t self-edit too much
and try to do a little writing every day.
What I read is good – and far better than I can hope to write now (but
always aspire to the best) and it’s easy to just decide that there’s no point
in putting my own paltry offering out to the world where there’s already so
much good stuff available. You just have
to turn that critical voice off and keep writing. Like all art, writing requires hard work, not
inspiration, to become good, and you have to keep doing it, editing it, taking
risks, revising, taking advice and moving forward. Not even experienced and great writers get
perfection on the first draft.
LPR: You have a
good imagination, Magdalena. Would you mind suggesting three topics that would
be good for poems?
MB: Sure.
What about (these are really six topics but as dichotomies they can play
against one another): a) birth/death b)
war/peace c) voyage/return
The topics are
deliberately vague. You could, for
example (as I have), juxtapose the birth of a child with the birth of the
universe and play the two against one another.
LPR: They are
great! Thank you. Finally, where can we buy Cherished
Pulse and your other writings?
MB: You can find everything at my website The
Compulsive Reader www.compulsivereader.com/html including lots of book giveaways and a free
newsletter. If you forget the html and
type in www.compulsivereader.com
you’ll get there too. To get directly to
Cherished Pulse, visit:
http://www.compulsivereader.com/html/images/cherishedpulse.htm
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(and no doubt some outrageously good promotional deals!) for Sleep Before Evening when it’s out. Any would be reviewers can contact me
directly for more details.
LPR: Thank you for
sharing your thoughts and ideas with us. It's been a pleasure to speak with you
and a most enjoyable interview. Good luck with all your future endeavours.